For highest effectiveness, you'd want to take them at least an hour before you consume any large amounts of demulcents or fiber. You just don't want them to be entrained or 'slimed away' before the beneficial components can be absorbed.
Very useful article, thank you. I note the comment re the most toxic plants usually taste nasty.
I believe the toxic big pharma drugs taste nasty which is why they are supposed to be swallowed or injected to avoid the taste buds which might warn 'Don't do it!'
Funny, I was thinking of covering nightshades as well, mostly due to the fact that I was talking with a friend about which plants I should try growing (I don't have much of a green thumb...) and talks about tomatoes made me curious about the nightshade hysteria.
I think what's important about the historical toxicity angle is that we tend to be ignorant of the fact that people have tested out the edible nature of plants, usually with their lives as you mentioned. I remembering making a comment to someone in my Substack once about the fact that we know that things are toxic because people had to have come across it and possibly died through trial and error. We tend to forget in modern times that people lost their lives, and hopefully those around took record of what not to eat, and with everything being provided to us we can become ignorant of our history with plants.
Funnily enough, the conversation with my friend also led me to think about this:
Pretty many people are really fearful of experimentation with the plants, and it might be their undoing if times get hard. One of the nightshade hysteria people is that Dr. Gundry who's all over the place online. He recommends against any of them, and that's a whole lot of the foods that helped people around the Mediterranean region live so long.
I haven't heard of Dr. Gundry (or maybe I'm forgetting...) but I've certainly heard of the large fear over nightshades, along with plants in general. It seems that there's a large overstepping occurring in which people who are made aware of the issues with modern diets may go all-in on alternative diets. It's sort of interesting to think about how many people have become ardently against fruits or veggies. This isn't to say that keto or carnivore doesn't work, but when a lot of this information is presented in a sensationalized or clickbait manner it makes it hard to consider these things as being based in evidence or just being trendy.
The problem with specialized diets is that you can't stay on them forever....kind of the way people won't be able to afford drugs like Ozempic forever. The things that work are doable lifestyle changes.
I paid attention to which health care professionals would jump on to the trending diets that didn't make any biochemical sense. It sort of let me know things about their clinical judgement.
It's funny you mention this, since a few months ago I suddenly got a surge of YouTube video recommendations about people who stopped Carnivore/keto. It seems like something that left as quickly as it came, and a lot of the videos may just be reactions to a few genuine posts, but it made me curious how long these diets are sustainable. It's frustrating that many people don't look at these diets with the idea that the information available is limited and that long-term data is missing on sustainability.
I'd say those diets are constipating. One treatment of roto-rooter for the rear, and any no-carb diet would have to go. :-D Low carb is doable, but no carb is unbalanced. There will always be people who will jump on the next extreme diet craze. I've never done it. I just go out and dig in the mud, and naturally eat less when it's hot, and that reduces the fat that I put on during the winter.
Air conditioning is what made it possible for people to really chow down, year round, and that's one reason we don't have it.
True, that's something that Bret and Heather mentioned on their podcast once. The constant static nature of our homes means that we can't gauge our eating habits with our environment, and that goes along with not being outdoors as often as we should.
I generally look at these diets as solutions to a generally poor diet that we have overall. Feeling better going carb-free may be due to not eating processed foods as often. It is understanding the balance of inclusionary and exclusionary aspects of diet.
Yaaaa this process is ongoing, but it's overall less hazardous with the plants than with the purified constituents or with designer drugs.
Had a convo with our deputy coroner yesterday. He confirmed that people continue doing that empirical self medication with street drugs, and it's not working out so well.
Right. And people continue to self-medicate with pharma drugs. Several years ago I remember reading that pharma drugs surpassed street drugs in contributing to killing people.
Fentanyl is causing such a wreck, it's probably hard to pin down these days. But FDA approval can't be considered a stamp of safety and efficacy anymore.
Should herbal capsules be taken separately from demulcents or fiber also?
For highest effectiveness, you'd want to take them at least an hour before you consume any large amounts of demulcents or fiber. You just don't want them to be entrained or 'slimed away' before the beneficial components can be absorbed.
Makes sense! Thanks.
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Very useful article, thank you. I note the comment re the most toxic plants usually taste nasty.
I believe the toxic big pharma drugs taste nasty which is why they are supposed to be swallowed or injected to avoid the taste buds which might warn 'Don't do it!'
Definitely it means proceed with caution. And now it seems that money being thrown around is taking the place of caution.
Funny, I was thinking of covering nightshades as well, mostly due to the fact that I was talking with a friend about which plants I should try growing (I don't have much of a green thumb...) and talks about tomatoes made me curious about the nightshade hysteria.
I think what's important about the historical toxicity angle is that we tend to be ignorant of the fact that people have tested out the edible nature of plants, usually with their lives as you mentioned. I remembering making a comment to someone in my Substack once about the fact that we know that things are toxic because people had to have come across it and possibly died through trial and error. We tend to forget in modern times that people lost their lives, and hopefully those around took record of what not to eat, and with everything being provided to us we can become ignorant of our history with plants.
Funnily enough, the conversation with my friend also led me to think about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKJwXhZ-UL0
Pretty many people are really fearful of experimentation with the plants, and it might be their undoing if times get hard. One of the nightshade hysteria people is that Dr. Gundry who's all over the place online. He recommends against any of them, and that's a whole lot of the foods that helped people around the Mediterranean region live so long.
I'm a pretty big nightshade fan, myself.
I haven't heard of Dr. Gundry (or maybe I'm forgetting...) but I've certainly heard of the large fear over nightshades, along with plants in general. It seems that there's a large overstepping occurring in which people who are made aware of the issues with modern diets may go all-in on alternative diets. It's sort of interesting to think about how many people have become ardently against fruits or veggies. This isn't to say that keto or carnivore doesn't work, but when a lot of this information is presented in a sensationalized or clickbait manner it makes it hard to consider these things as being based in evidence or just being trendy.
The problem with specialized diets is that you can't stay on them forever....kind of the way people won't be able to afford drugs like Ozempic forever. The things that work are doable lifestyle changes.
I paid attention to which health care professionals would jump on to the trending diets that didn't make any biochemical sense. It sort of let me know things about their clinical judgement.
It's funny you mention this, since a few months ago I suddenly got a surge of YouTube video recommendations about people who stopped Carnivore/keto. It seems like something that left as quickly as it came, and a lot of the videos may just be reactions to a few genuine posts, but it made me curious how long these diets are sustainable. It's frustrating that many people don't look at these diets with the idea that the information available is limited and that long-term data is missing on sustainability.
I'd say those diets are constipating. One treatment of roto-rooter for the rear, and any no-carb diet would have to go. :-D Low carb is doable, but no carb is unbalanced. There will always be people who will jump on the next extreme diet craze. I've never done it. I just go out and dig in the mud, and naturally eat less when it's hot, and that reduces the fat that I put on during the winter.
Air conditioning is what made it possible for people to really chow down, year round, and that's one reason we don't have it.
True, that's something that Bret and Heather mentioned on their podcast once. The constant static nature of our homes means that we can't gauge our eating habits with our environment, and that goes along with not being outdoors as often as we should.
I generally look at these diets as solutions to a generally poor diet that we have overall. Feeling better going carb-free may be due to not eating processed foods as often. It is understanding the balance of inclusionary and exclusionary aspects of diet.
Very interesting, I never thought of it, but of course there was trial and error with types of plants , use and dosage.
Yaaaa this process is ongoing, but it's overall less hazardous with the plants than with the purified constituents or with designer drugs.
Had a convo with our deputy coroner yesterday. He confirmed that people continue doing that empirical self medication with street drugs, and it's not working out so well.
Right. And people continue to self-medicate with pharma drugs. Several years ago I remember reading that pharma drugs surpassed street drugs in contributing to killing people.
Fentanyl is causing such a wreck, it's probably hard to pin down these days. But FDA approval can't be considered a stamp of safety and efficacy anymore.